edit: I have changed my title to match the new NYTimes headline. Sorry about the all caps, I guess they are really excited about this lol
Also shoutout to @SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone who shared a gift article link in the comments. I hope you don’t mind but I kinda stole it and updated the post
If he is guilty on even a single count, the former president and the presumptive republican nominee for the White House will not be able to vote for himself
What a shit show the Republican party has become.
Apparently, assuming he’s voting in Florida, for an out of state felony they use the other state’s rules to determine if he can vote. For New York, you can vote unless you are in prison for a felony (people on parole can vote). So unfortunately unless he’s thrown in jail, he’ll probably be able to vote for himself in Florida.
But hey maybe he goes to jail for something finally. That’d be nice.
Rich people, and politicians, don’t go to jail in America.
Well they certainly have a leg up and don’t go to jail as often as they should, politicians do go to jail sometimes. Easy to find federal politicians that have on this list:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
But yeah I’ll be surprised if Trump ever actually ends up behind bars.
What a beautiful list, thank you. Oh look who made the list!
#34 out of 34!
Unless there is an appeal before November
Shitshow, definitely.
But apparently he can vote if he is done serving the punishment. So, if the punishment is a fine and he pays the fine, Florida can (and probably will) reinstate his right to vote.
It depends on the punishment and when he’ll be able to complete the punishment.
Guilty on the first count.
Edit: Counts 2~34 guilty.
We got a total sweep.
🧹🧹🧹
Did you make this mockup or has the current state of American legal reporting devolved into a Sportsnet style scoreboard?
American legal reporting devolved into a Sportsnet style scoreboard?
How else are we supposed to understand it? Go away, I’m batin.
Looks just like CSPAN vote charts. You thinking of sports is you.
Has always been, even without the graphics. The adversarial system makes it a competition with a scoreboard
One way or the other, it will be historic. This is much faster than I expected the Jury to deliberate.
I assume if they have a verdict it’s guilty. Could be wrong.
Edit: update convicted on all 34 counts. From the article’s update:
Mr. Trump was convicted on all 34 counts of falsifying business recordsby a jury of 12 New Yorkers, who deliberated over two days to reach a decision in a case rife with descriptions of secret deals, tabloid scandal and an Oval Office pact with echoes of Watergate. The jury found that Mr. Trump had faked records to conceal the purpose of money given to his onetime fixer, Michael D. Cohen. The false records disguised the payments as ordinary legal expenses when in truth, Mr. Trump was reimbursing Mr. Cohen for a $130,000 hush-money deal the fixer struck with the porn star Stormy Daniels to silence her account of a sexual liaison with Mr. Trump.
Within a day (and likely within 30 minutes at that…), we will know the Jury’s verdict. Might as well wait for it.
But but it’s my justice and I need it now!
(Apparently JG Wentworth is joining the dark side,)
You’re not wrong
This quick must be guilty. I’ll allow myself to hope. Edit:
lock him the fuck up
Lock
herhim up!We even have signs that will work for this occasion with a slight modification.
Former President and convicted felon, Donald J Trump
Don’t forget “rapist”. He was never convicted, but he was found liable for rape, so you don’t even need to say “alleged”.
Yes. Former President, convicted felon, and rapist, Donald J Trump.
two times popular vote loser, two times impeached, orange scrotum face Donald trump
First time in history a candidate running for president can’t legally vote for themselves?
They passed a constitutional amendment in Florida to let felons vote, a couple years ago. The legislature tried to backpeddle it as much as they could in order to prevent black people from voting, but the main mechanism is forcing the felons to pay a bunch of money, which isn’t a problem for Trump.
Florida also defers to the voting rights in the state where the judgment happened for convictions outside of Florida. And New York lets felons vote. Therefore, Trump can vote in Florida under Florida election law.
Now the judge who Trump has been royally pissing off the whole time gets to sentence him. If your justice boner lasts for more than 4 hours, please consult a doctor.
FYI: Sentencing is set for July 11 at 10 a.m.
“Yeah, it’s been this way for about a month now.”
Despite @ummthatguy@lemmy.world doing it first, this is my domain.
Don’t do a Riker on my turf, damn it.
Hey now, on this occasion there’s enough Riker to go around for all of us.
But will they get along?
But Will they get along*
You can never have too much Riker….(the 14 year old girl who was me, waiting impatiently for TNG to come on…for the sci-fi…and the Riker).
I met Jonathan Frakes at a con once and told him I had the biggest crush on him when I was a teenager. He said, “Well what changed?”
Riker gonna Riker lol
Now I want to know the answer.
Time
I really didn’t have an answer because I wasn’t expecting the question, lol, but I kind of managed to come up with something like “Well….the show ended and you went away. You just kinda left.”
It was lame but all I could manage to think of on the fly. He just kind of laughed. It was a good experience, all of the main TNG bridge crew were there except for Jean-Luc and Wesley (who were originally supposed to be, that was a disappointment, but it was still fun).
In character to the end. 😄
I just love that crisp gif and I hadn’t seen your usual response yet.
Er… I mean no worries, friend!
The GOP could have gotten off this wild ride at so many points in the last 8 years, yet here we are. A republican presidential nominee who has been convicted of felonies.
Edit: And with Biden’s poll numbers they could have run literally anybody else and won.
There are several countries that won’t approve your visa if you are convicted felon.
It’s an indication that we’re not “sending our best”
So… is there a minimum sentence here? If so, what is it?
IANAL, but If I’m understanding this correctly, because he was found guilty of class E felonies, there is technically a minimum of 1 year in prison, but if the court:
is of the opinion that a sentence of imprisonment is necessary but that it would be unduly harsh to impose an indeterminate or determinate sentence, the court may impose a definite sentence of imprisonment and fix a term of one year or less.
Which seems like an alternative minimum. It seems like there will be additional evaluations as part of sentencing, which may or may not be postponed by appeals. He may get up to 4 years per count (which I’m assuming would be concurrent), maybe 1, maybe less if the court finds that it would be harsh to do so.
Even 1 would do so much to restore my faith in…so much.
But the dude is 10000% getting probation.
The system isn’t quite designed to do what many of us think it should do, but at times, it can get close.
Unfortunately, there’s a good chance you’re right, and this isn’t one of those times.
I hope I’m wrong! I really do.
Judge set the sentencing hearing for July 11, so it’ll be a bit before we know the final details.
Right, but we should know just based on what laws he was found guilty of violating what the minimum sentences for violating them are (if there are minimums).
Probation/ community service up to 4 years per count
Edit: 4 years of jail, not community service
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Good question. All I know is sentencing is set for July 11 at 10 a.m.
🤏🖐️👌 I tell ya folks we have the most perfect verdicts!!! Beautiful verdicts! 🖐️👌
Get fucked loser, CONVICTED FELON DONALD J TRUMP!!!
lock him up!
a new meaning to rule 34
