I just noticed that one of the news communities here discourage the use of least biased/centrist news sources and I saw some people who put that they hate centrists in their bios.

All is that is kind of weird to me and does not make sense, as I thought that all sides should encourage ideas from centrists and least biased sources.

Is there is something that I miss here?

  • True@lemy.lolOPEnglish
    726·
    3 months ago

    Politics is not as simple as black and white.

    You could support the left wing on good ideas and support the good right wing ideas when they make sense and still fight injustices.

    • SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      283·
      3 months ago

      Exactly which “good right wing ideas” are you referring to? Criminalizing LGBTQ? Ending elections? Killing the immigration system? Shoveling money at the rich?

      • True@lemy.lolOPEnglish
        425·
        3 months ago
        • Stopping illegal immigration?
        • Reduce government spending?
        • Lower government control that harm the competition for small companies?
        • SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          242·
          3 months ago

          In reality:

          • Persecuting brown people, and breaking the system to make legal immigration impossible
          • Only applicable to things that help the poors, not applicable to billion-dollar military boondoggles or handouts for corpos
          • Legalize union busting and selling sawdust as food
          • FireTower@lemmy.world
            33·
            3 months ago

            not applicable to billion-dollar military boondoggles or handouts for corpos

            You asked what good ideas to which he responded limiting government spending. Then you rebuke the notion that limiting wasteful spending is a fundamental good idea by criticizing politicians for not doing it in military boondoggles or with corporate welfare. Those are critiques of politicians not the ideas, as those negative examples are when the idea isn’t applied.

            I agree that we should curtail wasteful military spending and corporate welfare. But in advocating for those you yourself advocate for the idea of limiting government spending.

            • SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.worldEnglish
              102·
              3 months ago

              My point is that the right doesn’t care about actually reducing the deficit, they make noises about it when a Democrat is in office but the second they get power it magically disappears. It’s just an excuse to be awful.
              Remember Trump’s big tax bill? 10 TRILLION in extra debt, mostly to cut taxes for the rich. What did he cut? A few million worth of stuff that actually helps people.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              73·
              3 months ago

              By your logic someone can say they’re voting for trump.to.make America great again, and you’d expect people to take that on face value and pretend it’s an honest position.

              Like, I don’t know how to break this to you, but fascists lie about a lot shit, most of what they say are lies.

              So demanding people pretend they’re not lying, won’t get you honest discussion, because that’s not what you’re doing.

              • Fuzemain@lemmy.world
                23·
                3 months ago

                If you don’t think there’s trump stans out there who believe trump will do just that you need to touch grass.

                What is the lie there? That they actually picking a candidate who they want to make the country worse? The blunt truth is that to them the policies you don’t like are good ones.

                Insisting otherwise simply fuels polarization which furthers radicalization.

                • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  61·
                  3 months ago

                  The blunt truth is that to them the policies you don’t like are good ones

                  And I could say I started smoking crack to make my workday as a pilot more productive, and it’s safer because I’m more alert…

                  And anyone that agreed with me would be as stupid as I would be for saying that.

                  We don’t have to treat every crazy thing someone says as valid because they believe it. Opinions aren’t facts, and lots of opinions are very very stupid that doesn’t make them magically viable. The real world doesn’t work off Tinkerbell logic homie.