So it sounds like they did have plans, or at least ideas, for it but are now backtracking after the 100% deserved backlash.
Yep, that’s what I like to call a soft release
Trial balloon.
The new CEO had the beginning of an idea in an interview. The interviewer tried to push back while still keeping the interview going, but it became messy real quick.
If that’s the new CEO’s first idea, good luck, Logitech.
Patel: I’m going to ask this very directly. Can you envision a subscription mouse?
Faber: Possibly.
It was so bad Nilay Patel had to apologize (semi-seriously) about causing a news cycle about a mouse.
Same thing happened earlier this year with Wendy’s new CEO. His brilliant plan to make a name for himself was rolling out dynamic pricing. After days of well deserved backlash Wendy’s had to come out and walk it back while insisting they had never planned to use this to do lunch/dinner surge pricing.
every company brainstorms at some point and come up with a few good and a lot of bad ideas;
it doesn’t make it any closer to being a reality, the only difference is that this was made public.
This idea is so bad it should not have even been brought up
We have subscription services in cars now.
I’m betting it’ll happen either way.
It’s a fucking stupid future.
My car has 6 or 7 subscriptions I believe? I lost count.
And this is one reason why I hate modern cars. But then again, there’s no alternative, and that sucks.
there’s no alternative
Older cars?
Maybe for now, but there’s fewer and fewer around. In ten-twenty years time it will be hard to find a 90s car with reasonable mileage.
Weird, my Tesla has 0.
Looks like tesla offers a premium subscription for most things and a separate one for the fancy cruise control… So I assume you have an old model or your being a troll?
Just because they exist don’t mean I have them.
Exactly–and someone had to make the unpopular decision to announce it and weather the first round of criticisms. They also will be the first to profit from said stupid idea when they roll it out and the dumbs line up to buy it for fomo reasons or whatever
Still 1000% have those plans, they are just going to get quiet about them externally for a bit longer now.
They were just throwing it out to gauge reaction. They won’t give up on the idea just yet.
I mean, they 100% do have tangible plans. And I’m 110% sure that active portions of those plans already underway as well.
I think what they mean to say is, "the subscription mouse isn’t available today… I mean, unless you like, unless you wanted it to be or whatever? uWu…"
The problem is that companies talk to two sets of people and they both want to hear different things.
Users, who want to hear that they’re making a new mouse that costs $5 and lasts forever and gives you a blowjob, and shareholders, who want a $50 a month subscription mouse that harvests the users organs while they’re at it.
And it’s the CEO’s job to keep both of those people just unhappy enough to stick around.
i think users just want a functioning mouse that doesn’t fall apart in months.
No plans now.
Let’s just float the idea again in a few years and see how much backlash it then produces…
Or just slowly start rolling out and hope no one notices
Release it as an option with the necessary hardware.
Start with a comically low sub price and seemingly great features.
Hook the user base.
Phase out all non-sub options.
Compete enshittification.
Jack up price.
CEO bails under a golden parachute.
That… would require a current plan.
“no plans” We’re just awfully close and intend to make plans. Fucking hate when CEOs talk, can’t believe anything at face value. Lying sacks of shit.
That something so ridiculous is within the realm of possibility just shows how absurd the subscription landscape has gotten. It’s sad that they even have to clarify this.
Feeling cute, might boycott them anyways :)
They have to clarify this, because their CEO said that was something she wanted to make. What they’re actually doing is covering their asses because of all the negative sentiment they’ve stirred up now. It’s actually just a lie to say they have no plans.
Not just wanted to make, the original article implied existence of a prototype. That’s “putting into effect a plan” which, for fans of causality, implies a pre-existing plan.
CEO: says stupid shit
Corporate Comms: sigh CLEANUP ON AISLE 3
Ah yes, the ol’ “joking about a threesome” trick.
“What?! Oh, no I mean… I was just joking, honey. I’d never do that… I mean unless…”
That always reeks of so much insecurity to me. Just own up to it. If you are in a relationship, “sure, I would do a threesome, but only if you actively want it too and we both agreed on the person and what was allowed or forbidden”. Not in a relationship, “Sure, I would be down for a threesome as long as the desires and limits of all people involved are discussed before hand and accepted by all”. There, with that attitude there’s less risk of confusion or misunderstanding.
Look, I’m not gay but if my girl wants to bang Andrew Garfield, we’re having a three-way. My only ground rule is no one is allowed to leave anyone else for Andrew Garfield. And that includes Andrew Garfield…
Not sure why you’re getting down votes because this is the way. If you want something, be open and ask for consent. Just be okay with people saying no, too, and you’re good
“Not in a relationship” : I’m up for a twoesome!
No I didn’t mean I wanted to try but butt stuff! I was just kidding! Unless you’re into it honey 😜!
how about linux software
one of our team members showed me a forever mouse with the comparison to a watch. This is a nice watch, not a super expensive watch, but I’m not planning to throw that watch away ever.
Then, almost immediately starts talking about Rolex watches as if they are not expensive. This woman is very out of touch with reality like all CEOs.
I mean everyone knows that the answer to whether they’d live to do this is “yes”, but you don’t have to guess. They pretty much say ‘yes we’re planning it’ in PR doublespeak:
Logitech’s stance is “the mouse mentioned is not an actual or planned product but a peek into provocative internal thinking on future possibilities for more sustainable consumer electronics.”
So… They’re not planning to make it but they’re investigating the market possibility of selling it? Golly PRtalk is rough.
Luckily the CEO comes in hot again for us. Besides comparing the Morse to a Rolex he has this to say:
I’m going to ask this very directly. Can you envision a subscription mouse?
Possibly.
And that would be the forever mouse?
Yeah.
So you pay a subscription for software updates to your mouse.
Yeah, and you never have to worry about it again, which is not unlike our video conferencing services today.
But it’s a mouse.
But it’s a mouse, yeah.
I think consumers might perceive those to be very different.
[Laughs] Yes, but it’s gorgeous. Think about it like a diamond-encrusted mouse.
Diamond crusted to who?
Logitech has, in fact, EOLd parts of the video conferencing hardware. At best it may continue to work but no longer recieve updates. At worst teams and zoom deprecate APIs that are critical and force you to upgrade.
think about it like a diamond crusted mouse
Yeah bit it’s not… And it’s a piece of shit hardware that will cost youaybe 5-10 bucks to produce and you’ll soon enough rent it out for 5 bucks per month.
Fuck. You.
SaaS occasionally makes sense but I’m overall against it. Hardware SaaS has been dumb as fuck since AMD tried to charge us extra to unlock cores we already had on the chip and like 6 seconds until we fished out how to get around it.
What they want to sell:
A mouse with the quality of the mice 20 years ago. And you need to subscribe to software updates. However the subscription is not optional. If you don’t pay monthly you can’t use the mouse.
What I would actually pay for:
A high quality mouse with an open interface and maybe open source software for it. So I can maintain the software by myself. Usually you can achieve a high quality standard in a few months, and unless there are some driver issues, it should work forever.
I have a “gamer mouse” with a lot of features, custom dpi settings, custom color settings, rebinding keys and so on.
However I used the software once to set it up and on Linux I can’t even change it. I will never receive any updates!
Quality of the mouse of 20 years ago? Are were going to need the cook the eggs extra long to replace the mouse balls again?
We’d already switched to optical mice in 2004.
Which was only 10 years ago.
You might want to check that again.
Shhh yes, yes it’s 2014. Obama just made it so we can unlock our phones legally. You are playing Skyrim for (only) the 4th time. Covid sounds like a bad name for a youtube podcast. The jenga tower of your game mods crashes down. You grunt… Did you save recently?
What I’m wondering is: who the hell is upvoting that?
Me, for one.
Ratbagd / Piper doesn’t work for your mouse?
Hp omen is not supported
Never tried it. I didn’t knew that existed
Works for my Logi mouse, was very happy when I found the package (thanks nixpkgs search)
What sane people will buy: hey this one’s good enough, plus it’s on sale for $10!
How about an AI mouse. It would learn if you’re lefty or righty and it would tell glove manufacturers. It would read your pulse during stressful situations to find patterns and let other companies know when to best sell you shit. Yeah lots of benefits!
i have a logitech mouse from the 90s that plugs in and still works why do i need a subscription?
That is the reason why they r pushing for a subscription. If everyone who wants a mouse have a mouse how will the poor company earn money. How will the billionaire buy another yacht.
Good because the entire idea is completely idiotic.
