What would the answer otherwise be? “fuck your save, start over”?

Isn’t it the usual answer? If there’s any at all.

Is Discord client code available?

Thanks. Yeah, that’s disgusting.

Unless you can come up with a better translation

Sure, I’ll try, can you share links where you saw them saying those things?

you’re just sowing doubt without backing evidence

And it’s the right thing to do. It’s you who should provide evidence when you claim someone is a nazi, and we should doubt your words until you prove it.

Quite a statement for using Google Translate. Interpreting words is difficult, doing so while using pretty bad translation service may lead you to the interpretation completely different from what was intended. Not saying they aren’t nazis, just criticising your post.

It’s probably from a mod.

They didn’t claim it though.

They said that all governments do some terrible things but in case of the governments that claim they are not authoritarian they pretext those things with something that will make the public not think they are doing a terrible thing.

In case of restricting Internet freedom or invading other countries it’s usually “but think of children”.

You didn’t answer my questions.

What moderation do you want? And how would you prevent “moderation” from becoming censorship?

Aren’t there people whose job is to prevent crimes? Why some IT person who has no idea of crime need to do their job?

That is my concern with any US based company. With all the information we have how their government agencies used both legal and illegal means to access data how can you ever think those companies can protect your privacy even if they sincerely want to?

They do have the capability to not have the data requested. If they are not required by law(and it seems they aren’t), why store any data? They may have to provide data of the sessions that are active right now but it’s unlikely.

I wish it wasn’t located in the US where you know even though it’s e2ee they send all the data they get(and that’s a lot) to the government or whoever wants it. But e2ee is cool, right. Nobody from the government cares about it though, but it’s cool.

Why should they? Should every mail(physical or not) you receive be opened and read? Should the government have access to everything you do on your phone or pc? Should the government moderate your house? You are full 1984.

The government don’t usually need the text from your conversations, just the metadata who the person talks to, their location, etc. Signal is a US company, they surely provide all that data. It seems Telegram didn’t.

Despite TG being full of government trolls.

That’s the world we live in now. If it’s popular it will be full of trolls, government, corporate, all kind. Just somewhat popular, they are here on Lemmy too.

Well when Russia blocked Telegram it was just because Telegram refused to send them their users data. Simple. Now France seem to be sentencing a person to live in prison because Telegram still refuses to send them their users data. But they claim it’s for the children. Same shit, different excuse.

But the ban was only somewhat effective for like a month, then Telegram found a way to avoid it. In two years no one even felt like it was banned. So what could Russia offer to Telegram? Literally nothing.

I don’t see any agreement possible just because Russia had literally nothing to offer to Telegram.

I can do something about local storage, I can’t realistically do anything about E2EE.

You can enable secret chat. Like press the button. But that’s probably too difficult compared to encrypting you devices.

most smartphones have encrypted storage these days

Encrypted from your girlfriend or yourself if you forgot your gesture, but not from Google/Apple/Government or anyone who actually wants your data.

Again, it’s not, go to their github, check the code of the client, compile it yourself, and make a reproducible build to check that the client they ship to your phone is the same. You are talking nonsense.