When a user interacts with an ad or advertiser, a record of that interaction is… sent to two independently operated services.
When a user interacts with an ad or advertiser, a record of that interaction is… sent to two independently operated services.
How about Reddit or DeviantArt? I’ve noticed issues with each of those
If a company is unethical, they will ignore the Mozilla standard. If a company is ethical, they don’t need the Mozilla standard, as they can adopt their own tracking-free methods of serving ads.
I have been told repeatedly by Firefox advertisement advocates that PPA only affects people that don’t use ad blockers, so it allegedly only affects people that are already blasted by tracking networks to the fullest extent possible, while people who use ad blockers wouldn’t see the supposedly less invasive ads anyway. So it’s either 100% tracking to 110% tracking, or 0% tracking to 0% tracking. Seems like a lose-lose scenario for both sides of the equation.
disingeneous to call it adding ads
Who called it adding
With all due respect, Mozilla is now (and, for a while, has been) an ad company. When an ad company tells you ads are necessary, you should not trust them. Plenty of lousy things have been entrenched as social norms, but it is the job of the entrenchers to justify their existence… Which Mozilla is definitely not doing here.
Well, I don’t foresee any downsides. Hopefully they can continue making an incredible browser and operating system respectively.
Depending how deep you are into using the service, this might be an indicator to start shopping around for other options, as there are some that provide multiple domains and unlimited aliases for the cool price of $0 versus whatever Proton charges you…
…Especially if iCloud makes the other side of the equation difficult.
The Mozilla Foundation is a thin wrapper for the Mozilla Corporation, and it’s run by the executives themselves.
Please explain to me how sending additional data from your private computer to Mozilla servers gives me more privacy and not less.
In addition, a lot of Proton services are overpriced compared to third-party offerings.
You can use your own self-hosted servers with this too.
If you want.
Self-hosting can create its own additional privacy and security issues… unless you totally trust not only the place where you put the server, but also yourself to be a security expert
Maybe they could even stop charging subscription fees for client-side features for the people who self-host…
All you need is a web browser running Snowflake to help people connect to Tor!
Brave can keep the old APIs but they’ll still be affected, because developers for Chromium-compatible browsers still have to decide whether they want to create or support apps that will only work in a subset of browsers, and figure out how to distribute them outside the Chromium store.
I bring up “the email incident” because it’s a reminder that Proton may record stuff that’s not encrypted, which includes the vast majority of emails.
And it’s not to say that you wouldn’t trust it with one individual service, but whether it’s wise to trust it with so many services at once, from a security, privacy, and even monetary perspective.
Not every concern is FUD, and I think you’ll start seeing diminishing returns every time you repeat it.
There’s a lot of metadata Proton passes around, and two of their oldest flagship products (email and VPN) require you to put a lot of trust in one company. For email, you trust them to encrypt them without snooping. For VPN, you trust them to not collect logs about where you’re going.
And in the former case, they were compelled to give up at least a little data in the not-so-distant past.
Corrupt politicians can simply ignore the law. If they didn’t ignore it, they wouldn’t be very corrupt.
Telegram hasn’t been secure since basically day 1. IIRC it went something like
Security experts: Never roll your own cryptography.
Telegram: We rolled our own cryptography!
Security experts: Don’t. And it’s broken.
Telegram: uhhhh… We fixed it.
Security experts: It still looks really bad. Stop it.
Telegram: says nothing
I want Mozilla to make a browser that preserves privacy. They keep making it worse. And I don’t see how giving them money is helping them improve.
And my comment won’t cost them any money either, as @Matt@lemdro.id pointed out:
Plus donations to Mozilla cannot even be used for Firefox development due to the structure of the foundation and corporation.
You said
The pertinent information is that you were incorrect. That should be a big enough red flag for you to reevaluate how safe and secure you think PPA is.