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I’m pretty sure they are literally buying tons of them from China. What are you even on. There aren’t any restrictions there because that’s part of their neutrality. Otherwise I’m done cause this is absurd.

It’s quite easy for people who know what they’re doing to repurpose processors and components in consumer devices? And, you can also buy almost whatever cpu/component you want on Amazon too if you know what you’re looking for?

Otherwise, as I mentioned I don’t like it as a category because it leads to this silliness. At one point Israel was blocking all concrete imports to Gaza under dual use reasoning, and although I don’t like them one bit they kind of had a point. But, you also kinda need it if you want to build modern structures.

I’d assume NATO’s largely talking about machining equipment, electronics, and drones though. But, I don’t think they actually clarified anything? And while Ukraine itself probably doesn’t have much military use for the first two as any military plant would probably get hit, with how prominently drones have featured in this war they definitely fall under dual use.

What do you think dual use means?

I mean, if you explicitly want dual use stuff which is always a weird category: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-drones-glitching-getting-lost-in-ukraine-picking-chinese-ones-2024-4

Also can’t really see China turning off the taps on these exports considering they’re a world leader in it and it’s a pretty key tech.

They’re literally one of Ukraine’s largest trading partners if not the largest. Has even all lead to goofy shit where you’ll see stuff like having both Ukrainian and Russian reviews on (previously?) uncontrolled equipment like night vision goggles on Chinese sites. Otherwise their general policy response to all this has been to tamp down on equipment exports like that for everyone, everywhere.

They also trade on the same terms with literally everyone else. That’s called being neutral.

Chatbots passed the Turing test ages ago, it’s not a good test.