When H5N1 avian influenza started spreading among dairy cattle across the U.S. this year, regulators warned against consuming unpasteurized milk. What happened? Raw milk sales went up.

Distributors of this unsafe-for-human-consumption product deny H5N1—which has the potential to sicken millions of people—is a danger. Dairy farmers decline to allow disease detectives onto their properties.

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    “It not that people are stupid or ignorant or that they don’t know what the science is,” he said. “They’re motivated to reject it on the basis of partisanship, their political ideology, their religion, their cultural values.”

    I wonder why he doesn’t figure “The government has provided misinformation recently on health topics” into his list of reasons people don’t trust government health information.

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      I’m pretty sure rejecting facts based on partisanship, political ideology, religion, of cultural values can easily qualify you for being stupid.

      On the other hand, the us has done idiotic things to tarnish it’s reputation in the past.

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        It absolutely does. If you’re rejecting basic, verifiable scientific facts based on your politics or religion, you’re fucking stupid.

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            I’m sorry what? How am I anti-vax and a covid denier? Did you just make that up for no reason,

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              Regardless of intention, the US government put its stamp of approval on a lot of misinformation during the pandemic. Whether that was an attempt to deceive or just incompetence, it doesn’t inspire trust at all.

              This is just blatant dog-whistling. What misinformation, bruh. Share your crazy conspiracy theories so I can dismiss them out of hand.

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        Early on in the COVID pandemic, the CDC told the public that masks weren’t important for stopping the spread, when they knew this to be false. This was to prevent a run on N95s which needed to be prioritized for healthcare workers, which could have been bad (see: toilet paper situation). Iirc they changed this messaging to a more nuanced version, basically “don’t buy n95s leave those for healthcare workers, but make a cloth mask for yourself” after a couple weeks but the human brain retains the first thing it hears and a bunch of morons saw the updated messaging as contradictory to the previous message and threw up their hands about masks entirely.

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          The CDC said that masks would not be very effective at preventing you from getting the disease if you don’t already have it. They are however extremely effective at preventing you from spreading it if you are already infected.

          THAT is the difference.

          Yes, masks (not just N95 masks either) were indeed in short supply when the pandemic hit and the morons were buying them up like hot cakes in an effort to be “protected” from getting the virus. Except even if you are wearing a mask the virus can get in your eyes or get on your skin and get wiped on you nose, mouth, and eyes and you can get it. The only way to prevent the spread is for those who are infected to stop spreading the disease and masks are extremely effective at that.

          Fauci and the CDC didn’t lie, they were trying to stop idiots from hoarding masks that were in desperate need in hospitals and immediate care facilities. They just underestimate how unfathomably dumb you all are.

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            I don’t know why you’re lecturing me about this and including ad hominems, I understand how the virus spreads and take it very seriously, including masking where appropriate and getting the vaccine 4 months before it was available to the general public. I’m merely explaining how the CDC bungled the messaging at the beginning of the pandemic, it absolutely contributed to the amount of confusion. The public is simply not mentally equipped to handle that level of nuance, the CDC should have just said “masks work, wear one” and left it at that. The level of detail you explained is correct, and it’s way too much detail for the average brainrotted Facebooker to understand.

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              Early on in the COVID pandemic, the CDC told the public that masks weren’t important for stopping the spread, when they knew this to be false.

              This is why. It’s not true. This is not what they said. At all. They said what I outlined above.

              What you said here is what has been distorted by conservative media in the smear campaign against Fauci. A man we owe a great debt too and yet he continues to get threats and hate because of the absolute distortion of what he was saying and doing during the pandemic. All in an effort to shift the blame for how bad things got away from the great orange dipshit who bungled every aspect of our response to the disease when it hit the world.

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                Don’t take it from me, here is the literal CDC Facebook page telling people in Feb 2020 not to wear masks. And here is a scientific paper analyzing comments on their Facebook page comparing reactions of citizens to that Feb 2020 announcement, and the later April 2020 announcement where they did recommend masks. The paper explores lessons public health officials can learn from the failed messaging, it’s important to learn what we can so we’re ready for the next one. I do believe they were doing their best but this messaging was a mistake and it absolutely contributed to the confusion around this virus early on.

                CDC Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cdc/posts/pfbid02f4JBbsKWeEvZe1c6V1Gsvs1jDixoH9qRpwonebiY4QtaJGVaXs9K4FnNqB91cAm3l?__cft__[0]=AZWtQDpU3TRZ9RTLJrbXWOi98FW5DhWq8Uskn3vssi5Eh_t3VEgPvRH2NGGcIJrcpVwGLFBS-lk3i80XNb7v9dR_N2knM_cpoGlnaIB32ak2QhdrBzTxiC_xSYgwGTTLxc-DYG_nCjemFllecZwyR2vo&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R

                Paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10298096/#B3-ijerph-20-06062

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                  Wondering if a mask would protect you from COVID-19? CDC does not currently recommend the general American public use a facemask to protect against novel coronavirus. Only healthcare professionals caring for COVID-19 patients, people who are sick with COVID-19, or in some cases people caring for patients who are sick with COVID-19 need precautions like a facemask to help limit their risk of spreading COVID-19.

                  CDC always recommends everyday preventive actions, like staying home when you are sick and washing hands with soap and water, to help prevent the spread of respiratory illness.

                  This literally says exactly what I just did. Wearing a mask will not protect you from getting covid or any other disease but it can protect other people from catching it from you by stopping you from spreading it.

                  P.S. and yes, at the time healthcare professionals needed the masks desperately so that they could administer to patients without the fear of spreading the disease all over the place if they caught it because COVID has such a long incubation period that overlaps significantly with its shedding phase.

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          Our fuckery with other countries is well documented. Right now we’re talking about the things that our government tells us. Quite frankly, if one wanted to make a decent argument about our government lying to us they should point to Snowden. He is a much better example than the covid conspiracy theory garbage that OP has spewed forth.

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      They should have their fucking farms shut down until they comply with the FDA. Telling them they can’t investigate on their farms then you lose all farm subsidies.

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        Why did you post this as a reply to my comment? It doesn’t seem to actually respond to anything I said.