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Shit like this is exactly why competition is of utmost importance. The internet was never meant to be single-handedly controlled by a corporation with private interests, and more importantly, private pockets
Calling it the “Googlenet” now. The rest of us that don’t suck Google dick can stay on the actual Internet.
It’s like AOL all over again
Same thing that happened with the internet also happened with capitalism. It’s like you need some regulation to ensure competition. It could have been so awesome if we had what we were promised.
Manifest V2 phase out is a big deal, as Google is pushing towards Manifest 3 only. Google’s version of Manifest 3 is hobbled by removing WebRequest blocking which breaks privacy and ad blocking tools - an obvious benefit to Google as an Ad and data harvesting company.
Firefox is implementing Manifest 3 with WebRequest blocking, as well as supporting Google’s hobbled version declarativeNetRequest to allow compatibility with chrome extensions.
As far as I know there is no plan to phase out Manifest V2 at Mozilla. As long as V2 and V3 are active in parallel it shouldn’t have a negative Impact on adblockers etc.
Until MV2 API is shut off completely. What will FireFox’s V2 do then?
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2024/05/14/manifest-v3-updates/
We also wanted to take this opportunity to address a couple common questions we’ve been seeing in the community, specifically around the webRequest API and MV2:
- The webRequest API is not on a deprecation path in Firefox
- Mozilla has no current plans to deprecate MV2 as mentioned in our previous MV3 update
That said, I believe Firefox users have gotten a lot of benefits by having extensions made that work in both Firefox and Chromium-based browsers. I don’t believe there will still be as much effort for a Firefox-only extension but I believe there will be a sufficient number of motivated users and developers to still develop blockers and other extensions that take advantage of Firefox continuing to support MV2 and webRequest.
But at least Firefox is just compatibility, and not phasing out v2
Yeah, it’s still worrisome. This makes Firefox a lynchpin for whether ad blocking works for the foreseeable future on the whole web.
Anyone still using Chromium or any of its derivatives (including Chrome) just needs to suck it up and admit it’s the loser here. Use a Firefox derivative, it’s just all around better in every single way.
I had to call someone using Microsoft Teams today. It does not work with Firefox, even if you spoof the user agent.
I don’t know what’s up with your setup, but this is untrue. I’ve used Firefox for teams in browser for years with no issues.
I had the same issue. It works but crashed once I went into a call.
I can try again with a friend on Momday. Is there a specific user agent extension or a about:config option you used?
Honestly no, I have a bunch of extensions but I never took specific action to make teams work. You do have to make sure popup are allowed and ublock and similar tools don’t interfere with it, but it worked for me.
You might try grabbing a portable Firefox install from Portable Apps and testing that.
Not a big fan of MS Teams but… it’s worked for me before in the past. PEBCAK.
I’m using both Firefox as my daily browser, and Edge for school related stuff, Firefox is very often maxing out my CPU usage and I can’t figure out why
Yeah, I find firefox tends to leak memory when you have youtube tabs open. Still using only firefox unless testing for compatibility but it is a thing.
It does get worse when using YouTube, but usually it’s my CPU that elevates, not my memory
Thank Google for that “feature”
- On June 3rd, Chrome(ium) users will start being informed that their MV2 extensions will soon stop to function. uBlock Origin (and others) will lose the “Featured” badge.
- The remaining MV2 extensions will be gradually disabled in the “coming months”, with the last deadline being the beginning of next year. (Expect that uBO will probably not last that long).
What options do you have if you still want to use uBlock Origin?
- Firefox (and up to date forks) have no plans to end support for the webrequest API that uBO requires.
- Brave browser will allow MV2 extensions for now. I still have no info on if they are going to use their own store or require manual installation/updating of MV2 extensions.
- If you use Chrome. By enabling enterprise policy ExtensionManifestV2Availability, you should be able to extend support till June 2025.
- uBlock Origin Lite (uBOL) is a MV3 extension that is much more limited than uBO and is not intended to be a replacement for uBO. These limitations are described in detail in the FAQ for uBOL: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)
Thanks, great info
Firefox gang but still appreciated a couple of these reminders
for those who come and read through these comments, on top of considering not using a chromium-based browser, you could also:
- configure your own DNS resolver e.g. NextDNS
- go further and use a fork of firefox e.g. librewolf
Unfortunately DNS blocking is not nearly as powerful as an adblock extension which can manipulate the DOM and CSS directly.
this is true. however it can filter calls to ad services and block them at the dns level before they’re loaded in the browser
Sites are going to move ads to shared domains, now that chrome users are stuck.
Sadly corporate environments mean there is not choice for many users.
Or just use Firefox.
many people here parrot the same things relentlessly. there is no issue with choosing firefox as your primary driver. every user here can decide on what they want for themselves.
i am offering other options as the suggestions in this thread (and threads like these) are homogenous.
Firefox has telemetry settings built-in which you can switch off. LibreWolf strips the telemetry options away and focuses on obfuscating your browser fingerprint.
Yeah it’s just that I feel like if someone is still using freaking Chrome in 2024 then asking them to use something even more obscure than FF might be a bridge too far.
LibreWolf is just a fork of Firefox (one of many) which tries to improve its privacy features.
I am not asking anyone to use this, just merely offering an alternate option. Everyone who accesses the internet has used a browser. What makes a difference for the average user is the GUI and UX.
If you use vanilla Firefox and don’t tweak the settings, often your DNS will be resolved by either Google, Cloudflare or your ISP.
There is no perfect solution, only optimal ones.
I’ve been using uBlock Origin Lite and I haven’t encountered any issues
We’ve always been clear that the goal of Manifest V3 is to protect existing functionality while improving the security, privacy, performance and trustworthiness of the extension ecosystem as a whole. We appreciate the collaboration and feedback from the community that has allowed us - and continues to allow us - to constantly improve the extensions platform.
“We’ve always been clear that the goal of our remote-unlockable front door product is to protect your family while improving the efficiency and safety of our field reconnaissance and repo unit. We appreciate your feedback that you really hate unannounced in-home data gathering incursions, and we are integrating that feedback going forward as we work to improve your interactions with our team. See you soon!”
pets Firefox …Who’s a good boy?
Firefox finally got HDR support, so now I have zero reason to use a Chromium-Based browser anymore. Kept Ungoogled Chromium around just for streaming video; uninstalled it yesterday.
Wait it did? When?
IDK but I just noticed it a few days ago when I was suddenly blinded by every video, lol (I turned on the setting in my GPU that converts SDR videos to HDR. It never worked in Firefox until just now).
Not if you stop using chromium based garbage!
Considering the community behind uBlock origin has no financial incentive, why are they still developing for chrome and manifest v3 while google keeps pulling off anti consumer and anti-adblock tactics, shouldn’t they just drop chrome and orient people to use firefox or one of its derivatives.
I’m just here to say fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Google.
Many times stupid web pages don’t load… Call support and I’m told it only works in chrome.
Can’t get away from it
So what, you keep an ungoogled-chromium around and use it occasionally for compatibility, if you really need to. Doesn’t mean you are obligated to use it as your daily driver.
Exactly what I do
I’m doing the same, I rarely ever have to use it unless compelled to by work or simply a lazy site with less compatibility for anything beyond google.
For anyone who wants to try here you go.
I have both firefox and chrome installed. It’s actually not that bad as special work “tabs” get their own taskbar icon…
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when i try to go to a website that does that, or worse, when they say that my operating system is not supported, i don’t go to their site.
“Your desk chair isn’t supported, please stand up when using our site”
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source: my crackpipe
Source: extremely common knowledge and the stranglehold that Google has on webdev
My chrome phase-out finished years ago (though technically I was using a chromium-based browser and not chrome itself). Good riddance to that trash. Firefox all the way!
It becomes impossible to block ads in all browsers new forks will be made and the features we want will happen. The bar to spin and maintain a new browser is high but it’s not impossible on there are a lot of people that want this
And who is going to do it? All these “open source” projects are financially backed by some corpos
Here we go
We’ve had the youtube premium family bundle for several years, mostly for android auto in our cars. I switched to Firefox around that time as well but found it didn’t work as well for youtube. So I compromised by using Chrome for youtube and Firefox for everything else. I will continue this way for the time being, but honestly getting rid of Chrome completely would not be a big deal at this point.
