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    6 months ago

    Good. Fuck you and fuck off. The fact that you lost to a queer person is just icing on the cake.

    Don’t call yourself a Democrat and be blatantly anti-trans. Of course you’re going to lose, you moron.

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    arguing that conversion therapy was the true solution to gender dysphoria

    “Abuse is the solution”

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    When asked about her anti-trans votes, [Thierry] called gender-affirming care “Black genocide.”

    Does anybody even know what this is supposed to mean??

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      I’ve heard that stance used for abortion, so I assume it’s a statement trying to equate consensual sterilization (which shouldn’t be required to transition, but sometimes is) to the history of nonconsentual sterilization of people of color in America.

      Now it’s a batshit take, but I’ve found transphobes tend to use whatever legitimate grievances they have against anybody and slap it on trans people.

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      The only way in which I can try and make some sense of it would be if a black person, who’s mostly in an environment where there’s mostly black people, and therefore the majority of or the only trans people they know are black, thinks that non-black trans people are insignificant, and that trans people can’t ever have children.

      Personally, I’m grading this conspiracy theory with a F. Grifters used to put in more effort back in my days.

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      It’s roughly the same as swatting criticism of the Zionist Genocide by claiming that said criticism is anti-semitic - it conflates two quite different groups (in one case Jews and Zionists, in this case LGBT and Blacks) in order to weaponize the humanist moral position about the treatment of one of those groups to stop criticism of immoral actions by or (in this case) against a different group.

      This is quite a common element of the gaslighting which is so typical of Liberal politics (a very common example is female liberal politicians defending the kind of legislation that will hurt the poor claiming that criticism of their position is due to their gender), though this specific example is an especially exagerated and ridiculous version.

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    The real story:

    Democratic primary 2020, total votes: 14,263.

    Democratic primary 2024 total votes (before run-off): 12,761.

    ~10% drop in Democratic primary voters (reliable D’s).

    Lauren Ashley Simmons will win this district, but the things that is telling is the drop in voter engagement. These are the only data points we’ll be getting on this going into the election.

    But a 10% drop in reliable D’s electoral engagement should be more than concering to Democrats.

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      Primary runoff elections were held on some random Tuesday, just after a recent election on property taxes and other local issues. If you want voter turnout, elections need to be held on consistent days every year, and not some weird date pulled out of a hat when voters already just went to the polls.

      Better yet, give us ranked choice primaries so there aren’t any runoffs.

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        I mean, those are fine editorials, but the data is what the data is.

        This isn’t the only data point. Democratic voter engagement is depressed when compared with 2020.

        We’re only going to get a few more of these before the big game, and we should weight them more heavily than typical polling.

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            I mean that’s what the polling data is showing us.

            Its a bit dated, but this specific type of poll is less common:

            But some have spotlighted a potential saving grace for Democrats. In addition to showing Trump ahead by an average of four percentage points, the poll asked voters about a race without Biden. An unnamed “Democratic candidate” shifts the race by 12 points on the margins, turning a four-point Democratic deficit against Trump into an eight-point lead, 48 percent to 40 percent.

            Whats really, really, REALLY interesting to me about this is that it ends up with the same 12 point spread that actually appeared previously in the differential polling error associated with the 2020 election. In that election, Biden was +12 going into the election (composite of polls October/ November), and basically tied.

            Biden ended up under-performing his polling by an average of 4 points, and Trump over-performed his polling by an average of 8 points.

            So if you swap out Biden for “Generic Democrat”, you cover, almost precisely, how much so we expect Biden to under-perform his polling come November.

            I mean, Biden should have been grooming Buttigieg, grooming Kamela. We’ve got Elizebeth Warren, we’ve got Gretchen Whitmer, we’ve got Nina Turner. Ron Wyden, Jay Inslee, even Gavin Newsom (although he is not super popular).

            I mean shit you really want to fuck with the opposition? Fucking run Laura Kelly, Democratic governor of Kansas. She can run on abortion as a right, based on her recent striking down of the anti-abortion legislation there.

            Like the bench is deep for popular Democrats if you put even a bit of effort into collating a list.

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              Unfortunately the party isn’t interested in winning, it desperately wants to keep the status quo as much as possible, which is why we got biden in the first place.

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                By which I mean that I totally agree, but am also exasperated.

                The only way I think we can change things is to get the dummy-thicc blue-no-matter-who crowd to realize and give up on Biden as a candidate. We can’t even really start the conversation with him still in the room. Move the electorate and, more importantly, the media landscape; have them come to terms with this, we can take it to the convention and see what happens.

                I called this super far out, like, 8 months ago? 10 months ago? If Lemmy had a decent way to search my comments I could find it.

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              Meh, I’m fine with none of those people. They are all the same, working for the same overlords, only difference is Biden has a stutter. Not a single thing would be different under any of the establishment democrats it is all a coordinated hivemind. I am so sick of the same shit. The people move to the left, and the government keeps shuffling to the right. Give us someone actually progressive. It’s starting to feel like this two party system doesn’t actually represent its tax paying population, and only represents a rich few who don’t actually pay any of those taxes. It feels like the two party system is being manipulated to intentionally move things to the right to benefit the upper class. I’m starting to feel like there is some taxation without any representation and a little disenfranchised. I’m starting to feel like I REALLY don’t give a shit who gets elected because the future is shit for me and my children with either choice. Maybe those people on January 6th at least fucking DID SOMETHING. Even if I don’t agree with it. But voting doesn’t do SHIT. They make sure of it. I will vote, AgAiNsT TrUmP (yay), But the Dems can’t sit here and play with fire and be surprised when it burns them just like it did in 2016. Put in some effort to actually represent the population and people might come vote. Until then, the dems deserve what is coming to them. Problem is we are the ones that suffer. The class of people at the top, the people you just listed as candidates, are all perfectly happy with a Trump presidency. They get their tax breaks, and they get to laugh at how dumb he is on MSNBC and all the other 24 hour news diarrhea channels while he lowers the bar for future candidates. It is a best case scenario for them.

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                Nina Turner, Inslee, Witmer, Wyden, all super progressive. But I don’t care any more.

                Like, at this point, fucking run anyone that can win. I’m just trying to put 4 more years on the count-down-to-all hell breaks loose clock. And issue I have currently is that Biden doesn’t get us there while his apologists around here claim we have no other options.

                When I’m thinking about this, I’m thinking who do I want to play the game against? Who do I want sitting on the other side of the table from me in this fight? I don’t want to fight an emboldened, empowered, free from the rule of law fascist uprising. I’m too tired for that. My hips aren’t as good as they were when I was 24. I need a soft bed at night.

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                  You’re right, those candidates are better. My brain focused on Buttigieg and Kamala in your comment and I went on a rant. Honestly starting to realize the smaller state and local elections make actual differences, everything at the federal level is a money funneling clown show.

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      Lauren Ashley Simmons will win this district, but the things that is telling is the drop in voter engagement.

      Negative campaigns often depress voter turnout. In this case, you’ve got a candidate espousing some really vile beliefs. Folks who aren’t enthusiastic about the incumbent and don’t know much about the challenger stay home as a result.

      But a 10% drop in reliable D’s electoral engagement should be more than concering to Democrats.

      In Texas its something of a push. But Texas Democrats love putting up shitty milquetoast moderate candidates and then getting rolled in the general election.

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        Its the same district, same primary, slightly different slate of candidates.

        Its about as close to a controlled experiment as you’ll ever get in politics.

        But Texas Democrats love putting up shitty milquetoast moderate candidates and then getting rolled in the general election.

        Aint that the theme. The number of shitty rightwing Democrats being handed safe blue districts is ridiculous. Its a good thing that in this district in particular, its a pretty left-wing candidate.

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    If Democrats want change, this is how to do it:

    1. Win general elections; vote blue no matter who. 2 Primary out the corporatist candidates every chance there is, right down to the level of school trustee.

    This actually works, as we’ve seen with the GOP and their turn to rabid fascism. It can also work for good.

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      Win general elections; vote blue no matter who.

      Staunchly supporting Henry Cuellar and Bob Menendez during the general and then getting very confused when my party loses in a landslide two years later.