If only there was a way to show the whole world in one simple example how Enshitification works.
Google execs: Hold my beer!
I remember seeing a comment on here that said something along the lines of “for every dangerous or wrong response that goes public there’s probably 5, 10 or even 100 of those responses that only one person saw and may have treated as fact”
The fact that we don’t even know the ratio is the really infuriating thing.
“Many of the examples we’ve seen have been uncommon queries,”
Ah the good old “the problem is with the user not with our code” argument. The sign of a truly successful software maker.
“We don’t understand. Why aren’t people simply searching for Taylor Swift”
I tried, but it always comes up with pictures of airplanes for some reason.
I mean…I guess you could parahrase it that way. I took it more as “Look, you probably aren’t going to run into any weird answers.”. Which seems like a valid thing for them to try to convey.
(That being said, fuck AI, fuck Google, fuck reddit.)
“I’m feeling depressed” is not an uncommon query under capitalism run amok. “One Reddit user recommends jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge” is not just a weird answer, it is a wholly irresponsible one.
So, no, their response is not valid. It is entirely user-blaming in order to avoid culpability.
There are currently a lot of fake screenshots since it quickly became a meme, pretty sure this is one.
Still a fuck up in general on their part.
The fact that it’s hard to tell is pretty damning, for the public perception of SGE if not for its actual capabilities.
Fair enough. I know how easy it is to fake a Google search with inspect element. I’ve been trying to verify for myself how shitty it is, but AI Overviews don’t seem to be showing up for me (I’ve done all the correct steps to enable it, but no searches generate results).
Id be tickled to have odd answers by mr. yankovic mself
Would you be tickled if Mr Yankovic strapped you down to some medical restraining table and then…tickled your feet with a feather???
Seems like something he’d do.
High chance of success
I was at first wondering what google had done to piss off Weird Al. He seems so chill.
First Madonna kills Weird Al, and now Google.
WILL THE NIGHTMARE EVER ENDHi everyone, JP here. This person is making a reference to the Weird Al biopic, and if you haven’t seen it, you should.
Weird Al is an incredible person and has been through so much. I had no idea what a roller coaster his life has been! I always knew he was talented but i definitely didn’t know how strong he is.
His autobiography will go down in history as one of the most powerful and compelling and honest stories ever told. If you haven’t seen it, you really, really should.
ITT NO SPOILERS PLS
Not a spoiler but FYI, that biopic was 100% Al generated
You can’t spoiler historical fact, man. It’s history!
They made him a moderator of alt.total.loser.
either this joke has about 2 days of life left in it, or it’ll go “too many chefs” and endure for years
I vote for as many chefs as possible
It takes a lot to make a stew.
allowing reddit to train Google’s AI was a mistake to begin with. i mean just look at reddit and the shitlord that is spez.
there are better sources and reddit is not one of them.
Tech company creates best search engine —-> world domination —> becomes VC company in tech trench coat —-> destroy search engine to prop up bad investments in
artificial intelligenceadvanced chatbotsThen Hire cheap human intelligence to correct the AIs hallucinatory trash, trained from actual human generated content in the first place which the original intended audience did understand the nuanced context and meaning of in the first place. Wow more like theyve shovelled a bucket of horse manure on the pizza as well as the glue. Added value to the advertisers. AI my arse. I think calling these things language models is being generous. More like energy and data hungry vomitrons.
Calling these things Artificial Intelligence should be a crime. It’s false advertising! Intelligence requires critical thought. They possess zero critical thought. They’re stochastic parrots, whose only skill is mimicking human language, and they can only mimic convincingly when fed billions of examples.
It’s more of a Reddit Collective Intelligence (CI) than an AI.
Collective stupidity more like
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
Probably one of the shitstains in Google’s C-suite after having signed a “wonderful” contract to get access to “all that great data from Reddit” forced the Techies to use it against their better judgement and advice.
It would certainly match the kind of thing I’ve seen more than once were some MBA makes a costly decision with technical implications without consulting the actual techies first, then the thing turns out to be a massive mistake and to save themselves they just double up and force the techies to use it anyway.
That said, that’s normally about some kind of tooling or framework from a 3rd party supplier that just makes life miserable for those forced to use it or simply doesn’t solve the problem and techies have to quietly use what they wanted to use all along and then make believe they’re using the useless “sollution” that cost lots of $$$ in yearly licensing fees, and stuff like this that ends up directly and painfully torpedoing at the customer-facing end the strategical direction the company is betting on for the next decade, is pretty unusual.
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Can you tell me what the previous poster thinks is “pretty unusual”? I can’t understand the giant run on sentence
I didn’t even read most of his comment tbh
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Probably one of the shitstains in Google’s C-suite after having signed a “wonderful” contract to get access to “all that great data from Reddit”
If they hadn’t bought and then shutdown what became google groups to sabotage Usenet they could have gotten access to just as good of a data set for free.
If you have to constantly manually intervene in what your automated solutions are doing, then it is probably not doing a very good job and it might be a good idea to go back to the drawing board.
You mean like with our economic system?
Just let an algorithm decide. What could go wrong?
You mean answers like this one?
“Studies indicate” What?
One dentist stands alone.
Can that YouTuber sue them for defamation (oh my god that would be amazing). They should consult a lawyer
Correcting over a decade of Reddit shitposting in what, a few weeks? They’re pretty ambitious.
This is perhaps the most ironic thing about the whole reddit data scraping thing and Spez selling out the user data of reddit to LLM’S. Like. We spent so much time posting nonsense. And then a bunch of people became mods to course correct subreddits where that nonsense could be potentially fatal. And then they got rid of those mods because they protested. And now it’s bots on bots on bots posting nonsense. And they want their LLM’S trained on that nonsense because reasons.
Now, instead of debugging the code, you have to debug the data. Sounds worse.
After enough time and massaging the data, it could all work out - Google’s head of search aka Yahoo former search exec
Isn’t the model fundamentally flawed if it can’t appropriately present arbitrary results? It is operating at a scale where human workers cannot catch every concerning result before users see them.
The ethical thing to do would be to discontinue this failed experiment. The way it presents results is demonstrably unsafe. It will continue to present satire and shitposts as suggested actions.
It won’t get people killed very often at all. Statistically there’s like no way you’ll know anybody who dies from taking a hallucinated suggestion. Give some thought to the investors who thought long and hard about how much money to put in. They worked hard and if a couple people a year have to die because of it how is that a bad trade off?
-kinda how it literally is almost unless the hubris is stronger than I imagine
Wouldn’t it be easier to hardcode in the servers an entire encyclopedia instead of trying to limit a generative model to give only “right” answers?
Google wants that to work. That’s why the “knowledge panels” kept popping up at the top of search before now with links to Wikipedia. They only want to answer the easy questions; definitions, math problems, things that they can give you the Wikipedia answer for, Yelp reviews, “Thai Food Near Me,” etc. They don’t want to answer the hard questions; presumably because it’s harder to sell ads for more niche questions and topics. And “harder” means you have to get humans involved. Which is why they’re complaining now that users are asking questions that are “too hard for our poor widdle generative AI to handle :-(”— they don’t want us to ask hard questions.
That cant answer most questions though. For example, I hung a door recently and had some questions that it answered (mostly) accurately. An encyclopedia can’t tell me how to hang a door
Yeah, there’s a reason this wasn’t done before generative AI. It couldn’t handle anything slightly more specific.
Same I was dealing with a strange piece of software I searched configs and samples for hours and couldn’t find anything about anybody having any problems with the weird language they use. I finally gave up and asked gpt, it explained exactly what was going wrong and gave me half a dozen answers to try to fix it.
That cant answer most questions though.
It would make AI much more trustworthy. You cannot trust chatGPT on anything related to science because it tells you stuff like the Andromeda galaxy being inside the Milky Way. The only way to fix that is to directly program basic known science into the AI.
Yes. But that’s not ✨AI✨
