Vice Adm Brad Cooper, deputy commander at US Central Command, told reporters in a Pentagon briefing on Wednesday that the pier had achieved its intended effect in what he called an “unprecedented operation”.
Critics call the pier a $230m boondoggle that failed to bring in the level of aid needed to stem a looming famine. The US military, however, has maintained that it served as the best hope as aid only trickled in during a critical time of near-famine in Gaza and that it got close to 20m lbs (9m kgs) of desperately needed supplies to Palestinians.
Aid groups slammed the US military pier as a distraction, saying the US should have instead pressured Israel to open more land crossings and allow the aid to flow more quickly and efficiently through them.
Same vibes.
Exactly my thought. Amazing. Our choices are now neocon or fascist. I’m still going with neocon, but it’s just depressing.
Fuck you USA military and admin and IDF and zionists.
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An ability to not fall for terrorist propaganda and a desire for justice.
Sadly you failed.
It seems that all peeps from dbzer0 to have this disability.
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Yeah, the thing is, it seems like it’s not “oh no, they’re using human shields, we can’t blow them up”, but more like “human shields? Oh well, load the bombs.”
The atrocities commited by hamas in no way justify the atrocities commited under the leadership of the Israeli government, doubly so since an organised military force with a clear chain of command is quite different from a group of extremist militants.
Yeah, the thing is, it seems like it’s not “oh no, they’re using human shields, we can’t blow them up”, but more like “human shields? Oh well, load the bombs.”
Finally, someone gets it.
The atrocities commited by hamas in no way justify…
This is where the disagreement truly lies and I’m sorry but you’re wrong. Israel absolutely has the right to go after Hamas and the civilian casualties are Hamas’ fault, not Israels. As you so eloquently put it, Israel is prioritizing the lives of its soldiers over those of the unfortunate, but almost certainly sympathetic or supportive, ‘civilians’. The second Hamas surrenders and releases the hostages you have a point. Until then, you’re supporting terrorist warcrimes by using genocide hyperbole instead of calling it the tragic intentional consequences of Hamas’ strategy.
I honestly don’t see much difference between this stance and saying that the years of oppression by Israel justify the attacks by hamas.
I think the only thing we can do here is agree that we very fundamentally disagree.
There’s a huge difference. Hamas invaded Israel and intentionally slaughtered civilians and followed up by taking hostages whom they to this day refuse to release despite the ‘horrors’ being visited on their people. Israel is specifically going after Hamas and while being indifferent to the collateral damage. I’m absolutely certain the Israelis would prefer a clean fight for obvious unfair reasons but I have no illusions they will ever get that so here we are fundamentally agreeing to disagree.
The (edit: the past) mistreatment of the Palestinians is a crime that I fully support ICC justice for. It should have been what all these people downvoting made the wedge issue LONG ago and their outrage poorly conceals their guilt to this end. Regardless, it does not justify terrorism and anyone that thinks it does is lost. I also think the UN should force the issue to both sides dissatisfaction so we can end this century+ of BS but I’m not holding my breathe.
Israel certainly prefers a clean fight when they checks notes bomb UN Schools and Neutral Aid Camps filled with children and innocent civilians
… housing Hamas weapons or under attack by Hamas specifically because it was supposed to be safe.
So what say you about the video where IDF had Palestinians in hand cuffs and had them walk in front of them as shields while the IDF soldiers cleared a building?
I haven’t seen it, but assuming it is true I’d say that squad should be prosecuted.
I’m pretty sure the mission here was to provide rhetorical cover for genocide without accomplishing anything meaningful. So, I suppose they’re correct to label this mission as complete.
Mission failed successfully!
That was CHEAPER then NOT giving Israel Bombs!
Inpendent of land politics, why was the pier such a bad idea? Humanitarian relief is important, or not?
It was expensive and solved almost none of the actual problems
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Difficulties distributing food within Gaza? Boats don’t work on land, so you end up loading it all into the exact same trucks you would use for land crossings, so run into the exact same issues.
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Difficulties getting enough aid through Israeli checks? By design, Israel inspected all pier deliveries as they left Cyprus, and again as they arrived at Gaza, and the IDF controlled the staging beach within Gaza. If they were giving you problems at all the other crossings they control, they will give you the same problems at this one.
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Distance between the crossing and where aid is needed? Sure. Technically this could help some depending on the details of the logistics work being done within Gaza. But… Gaza is just not that big.
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Attacks by Hamas? As far as aid deliveries go, this has only ever been an issue internal to Gaza, so see point 1.
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Attacks by starving Gazans? See point 1. Also, aid being stolen by starving people is mission accomplished
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Egypt closing their border crossing? Sure, but again, Gaza is not that large, the Israeli land crossings are still fine.
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Attacks by Israeli terrorists? Sure, but the Israeli police has been doing a fine job dealing with this already, so it has not been an actual bottleneck.
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Attack by the IDF that hit people attempting to distribute aid within Gaza? See 1.
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Lack of adequate practice for the US military to deploy a naval logistics platform? Fair enough, this project did solve that. Not sure what that has to do with the humanitarian situation in Gaza though.
At the end of the day, this pier project has always been the “something” to calls within the US that “we have to do something”.
It was slightly better than the aid drops by plane, which may have killed as many people as they saved.
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The pier wasn’t the worst idea (in theory), but they built it so that it wouldn’t last in stormy seas when the Mediterranean is famously stormy. Also, a better idea would have been to put hard pressure on Israel to open up ground routes, but that didn’t happen.
