WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

  • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    516·
    4 months ago

    Advocating for violence to prevent a fascist from abolishing the democracy is the only acceptable violence. Sometimes a democracy has to be protected violently if it is too weak to protect itself. Trump allies always say its why they have the second amendment. Now that it is used against them they cry about it.

      • NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world
        81·
        4 months ago

        The paradox of tolerance is only a paradox if you don’t believe in the social contract.

        Beliefs that violate the social contract deserve no protection under it.

    • Emmie@lemm.ee
      1524·
      4 months ago

      Violence is rarely good for anything as we have seen it just now. It would be better even if this guy shot at Biden that’s how counterproductive it is.

      Modern problems aren’t solved with blood but with marketing. You cannot kill an idea but you can ridicule it

      You cannot just eradicate everyone who opposes you. China tried, Soviets too. Now they have something vastly better - troll farms.

      • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
        173·
        4 months ago

        Modern problems aren’t solved with blood but with marketing.

        Tell that to the Ukrainians and the Palestinians. I know you want this to be the case, but you couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.

        • Emmie@lemm.ee
          37·
          4 months ago

          In both cases they didn’t solve anything and only made things worse for themselves

          • Evil_incarnate@lemm.eeEnglish
            8·
            4 months ago

            Not sure what you mean, but Ukraine and Zelensky have been marketing themselves all over the place. They need all the help they can get, and they are doing whatever they can to boost support. So far pootin hasn’t achieved his goals so it’s working.

          • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
            82·
            4 months ago

            You’re right, better to allow a violent oppressor to slowly eradicate your people than attempt to free or defend yourself by whatever means necessary…

            • Emmie@lemm.ee
              14·
              4 months ago

              Eh I think you guys see what you want to see in my comment. I was talking about Russia. putin attacked Ukraine, it was insane in any case and what did he got out of it really?

              The violence on Ukraine was just plain stupid.

              I am kinda surprised and amused you take me for some pacifist goodie two shoes, other cheek blah blah. funny from my pov. Idk how you extracted that from my comment, I bet you will now continue to argue with something that doesn’t exist. My congratulations

          • shiroininja@lemmy.world
            5·
            4 months ago

            Appeasement of an aggressor never works. History has taught this over and over and over again. We still haven’t learned I see. I’m mainly talking about Ukraine. Palestine is a lot more complex.

      • Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml
        4·
        4 months ago

        Your last point is actually not a bad analysis - but it is missing that the ones operating their propaganda and troll farms already also control the violence monopoly. And both entities also use violence where they deem it practical.