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    Please don’t. Just keep providing security updates for an extended time and don’t make Win 10 worse with these ‘features’ that are keeping people away from Win 11.

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          From what I’ve seen, pretty much everyone from techies to the tech illiterate HATES AI Implementations. Yet corporations keep trying to shovel it down our throats. When are they going to admit no one wants this?

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            They are shoveling it down our throats because the corporations want it. The more they can get it to do without having to pay us poors, the more money they can keep in their pockets. AI has to mine data to learn, so they are trying to put it everywhere to learn. On your OS like copilot doesn’t just learn what you type in on a specific site, it learns EVERYTHING you type, everywhere. Then later, Microsoft doesn’t need to pay people writing code for them, doesn’t need to pay customer service reps. Then they can sell either copilot or its learned data to other companies. WE ARE NOT THE CUSTOMERS, WE ARE THE PRODUCT.

            ANYHOOO, I have no idea how AI works, I am talking out my ass, but this is my tinfoil hat rant.

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            Yep the few people that say “with ai my job has improved” are the people that were shit at their job. Like a dude was so happy on linkedin about how great it is to have chatgpt do the analysis of some csv, it would have been soooo difficult with a spreadsheet…

            I have copilot because my company is ms partner and we have all the GitHub stuff and whatnot. It’s only useful when creating mock tests and it creates values for variables. Stuff that before I was doing semi manually using a library to create the values during the test. Otherwise the suggestions are plain wrong or so convoluted (and I wouldn’t know if they are right because I don’t understand what’s happening) that I would never allow it in the codebase, it probably took some l337code/codegolf challenge as an example…

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            I think it’s obvious. They paid a whole lot of money, it turned out not as life changing as they thought and definitely not as good so they are trying to make us hooked to get back on the money

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            I think when you say “Hates AI” you mean “Hates ChatGPT”

            “AI” itself has a lot of awesome uses, ML models with DLSS, robots that can maneuver over different terrain, image generation, audio transcription, etc.

            Even with LLMs, I’m fine with them as long as I was the one that was able to pick and choose the model as well as the software to use to run it.

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    Stubborn? Windows 11 does not support my older hardware. With no other reason to upgrade, I’m not dropping that kind of cash just for Windows 11.

    Regardless, I fully migrated to Linux last year.

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    TF do they mean stubbornly popular? My windows 10 works perfectly fine and I have absolutely no reason to change anything about it. What is this weird ass ‘if you’re not upgrading, you’re being stubborn’ when there is no reason to and windows 11 looks ass on top of it

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      Umm maybe it’s stubbornly popular because devices running it can’t be updated. My OG surface book (a Microsoft flagship device for awhile) is great hardware, but can’t update to 11. My gaming laptop is even better hardware but doesn’t meet the win11 requirements. Because they are sealed devices. I literally couldn’t if I wanted to.

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      … said the stubborn person refusing to upgrade.

      I was still on Windows 7 until about four months ago when I needed to upgrade to 10 for work. I totally agree and understand your point

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        said the stubborn person refusing to upgrade.

        You sound like you 100% missed their point.

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            I get over the air guide in tvheadend, but you can configure it to pull xml based guides off the internet if you prefer.

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      Every person I’ve talked to IRL about Windows misses Windows 7. We didn’t realize how good we had it. Oh well, I’ll just switch to Linux

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    Windows 10 isn’t popular. It’s just that windows 11 is crap in comparison. Release an OS that isn’t predicated on what’s good for ad revenue and Microsoft’s bottom line and everyone will upgrade.

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        Well, it’s popular not because of demand but because Win7 is ancient. In the old times there were utilities that copied win2k binaries into a winNT4 install to add features like new directX, I wonder if that is still possible on win7

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          I have never understood why people still like 7.

          I thought it was decent when I last used it, but Win 10 is much better.

          7 is fairly ugly and has a lot of missing stuff for 10.

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        5 months ago

        It’s pretty annoying in 10 too. I had a big scratch folder on my desktop and one day it decided to start syncing with one drive after a restart and one of those setup/welcome like screens.

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    5 months ago

    They just want to make w10 as bad if not worse than w11. Because they want people say: I might as well use w11.

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    5 months ago

    Well it’s only Windows that’s complaining it can’t install Windows 11 on my Windows 10 laptop. I’m not mothballing perfectly good hardware just because Microsoft is having a tantrum.

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    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I can enable some TMP in my bios to give me “windows 11 compatibility” but I have no reason to do so. If I could chill on Windows 7 forever I would

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    Its not that 10 is more popular, its that 10 is less jacked up. Start jacking 10 and we’ll all go back to 7

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    5 months ago

    No fucking thank you, I have long since completely neutered my pc’s ability to update. I updated enough to install drivers and get it stable, and that’s it. I don’t trust windows.

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      So much effort to just keep using the same shitty piece of software.

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      Oh man, I obviously don’t want that, because there’s gonna be companies and organizations and whatnot handling my data with a non-hardened Windows 10, but I’d still grab some popcorn and watch all the security and data protection people explode.

      Windows 10 as is, was already a massive shitshow. The German Federal Office for Information Security started a guide for hardening Win10 and they very deliberately chose a name that would abbreviate to SySiPHuS, because I imagine, they never expected to see the end of it.

      Now, that end would be in order, at the very least, because the worse Win11 should be taking over. And to then have Microsoft chip in a new massive security hole, making them update their guides and all the hardened systems once more, that certainly has some incendiary potential. 🙃

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      No you shut your whore mouth.

      Some of us rely on windows only software and dont have the option to run linux or other OS’s

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    I’ll just jump ship completely and use my Linux install 100% of the time. If I need to use a more mainstream OS for some stupid reason I’ll just use my Mac.

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      Only reason I need Windows is for Flight Simulator. If it weren’t for that I’d be on Linux for sure.

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      Linux is still not there for gaming, that’s what holds back most of the people who bitch about windows. People who just use windows to browse and do spreadsheets they don’t care.

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        I think PC gamers tend to overestimate their importance in OS distribution these days - gaming on Linux is just as passable these days as on Mac, and there’s much more to PC use than only gaming for 90% of users.

        I feel that PC use is more complicated than gamers/productivity - but having switched over full time this year, Linux clearly has some work to do so the average user doesn’t need to touch the terminal - but even compared to 10 years ago its infinitely more capable and user friendly.

        Customers of paid software need to start either voting with their feet meaningfully, or lobbying to get software support on Linux if they want it - complaining that titles aren’t available for Linux and then continuing to suffer through windows instead of making that known to the devs is seen exactly the same way - a sale.

        I certainly miss some windows only software - but I’m not going to be held captive anymore for programmes I paid for, that refuse to consider my needs, when they are a part of my wider usage and expectations.

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          We don’t, there are a ton of online games that will not work on linux. I don’t know why this is hard to understand. I love linux, but I have my main rig for gaming running windows, because it’s easier and games just work on it.

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        Gaming is absolutely there, if you want to say something about anti cheat and whatnot that’s fair, but my gamescope enabled, AMD fsr utilizing arch install is performance parity to Windows 10, if not more performant. I’m not giving up that performance gain for an insanely small handful of games. You do you I guess.

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          Even for AC, most AC is supported. Battle Eye and Easy Anti-cheat both work fine (with the proton patches that should be automatically installed). Maybe there’s some custom AC that doesn’t work, but I haven’t found it yet. I’d guess Riot’s doesn’t if you want to play Valorant or LoL and want to install their root kit. I’ve had issues with The Finals (who just took a long time to update EAC but works fine now) and Squad (which is using a depricated C function that isn’t included in glibc anymore, but is included with the Flatpak version of Steam so it’s still playable with that) but they’re solvable. I believe that’s all.

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    My set up comfortably plays cyberpunk at dead fancy settings, but doesn’t meet the system requirements for windows 11.

    Yeah, I’m going to rub out windows 10 as long as I can (although I dual boot Debian anyway).

    That’s why it is stubbonky popular.

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    Is one of those “features” CoPilot? Because I did a search for it on my Windows 10 installation, and found several small bits of it, including a directory called “Microsoft CoPilot.” It looks like a placeholder for a full installation, later on. I’m guessing Office 365 put it there.