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    6 months ago

    Don’t worry, DRM-ed content isn’t recorded, so big companies’ IP is protected.

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    6 months ago

    Imagine trying to use Wireshark on windows to debug or look at some service.

    Just an avalanche of packets going to 20 different domains on idle.

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      No, no. You see, Recall runs locally. It’s “edge computing”. Which would imply to me that it runs on my router…? Anyway, it’s not the cloud, it’s edge and AI and surely super cyber, too (whatever that means). My point is, I could give you many more buzzwords, so don’t worry. You won’t need Wireshark ever again, just ask the AI if your network is secured. 👍

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    Kinda funny, not too long ago it was a fun mental exercise if you were paying attention to the tech industry to try to think of the ways in which Google or MS could fall.

    Now, AFAICT, neither are falling any time soon, but there certainly seems to be a shift in how they’re perceived and how their brand sits in the market (where even so I’m still probably in a bubble on this).

    But I’m not sure how predictable it would have been that both would look silly stumbling for AI dominance.

    And, yea, I’m chalking recall up to the AI race as it seems like a grab for training data to me, and IIRC there were some clues around that this could be true.

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    Jesus Christ. All these requirements for something most people didn’t ask for:

    System requirements for Recall

    Your PC needs the following minimum system requirements for Recall:

    A Copilot+ PC
    
    16 GB RAM
    
    8 logical processors
    
    256 GB storage capacity
    
        To enable Recall, you’ll need at least 50 GB of storage space free
    
        Saving screenshots automatically pauses once the device has less than 25 GB of storage space
    
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      Sounds like the way around this is to make swap space take up the drive up to 24 GB. Then trim the swap space as you need it.

      I know it says “to enable” but let’s be real here. It’s going to be a placebo switch.

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            Europe keeps on proving that we can in fact regulate these companies, and it’s fucking pathetic how the US and Canada don’t.

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          If it’s anything like the “sign into your Microsoft account to continue” bullshit, there will be no cancel button. You’ll need to cast an archaic spell where you summon a spirit from the Netherworld, who then just gives you a 60 minute lecture on enshitification and why you should install Arch.

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      That’s a quite normal PC right? Not that I want it though lol good heavens.

      When I think about it my daily only have 4 cores, oh no cant use it (I’m on Linux too, so sad ).

      Or am I missing something with “copilot pc”, does it have to have som special hardware? Asking out of morbid curiosity.

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        Yeah, it has to have certain specific types of CPU. They’re making this a requirement for all Windows 11 machines if you want to keep receiving security updates. It’s going to create a mountain of e-waste.

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      Wait for them to find a way that everyone will run out and buy 1k+ laptops now. Disregarding privacy, most people only need Chromebooks nowadays.

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        Yes. A CPU has both physical cores and logical threads. These are both considered logical CPUs.

        For example, if you ran cat /proc/cpuinfo on Linux you would see something like this (First processor is processor 0)

        processor : 23

        model name : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor

        So your 4 core CPU likely has hyperthreading and would meet the requirements for Microsoft recall

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      Microsoft is talking control over its ecosystem. Will it police your os for piracy? Look at what you do so it can sell you products? The use case is infinite once they have the data

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      I love the idea of exo brain/second brain where AI helps me keep track of all of my stuff and recall stuff.

      But I want to extend myswlf not assimilate to the Microsoft Borg collective lol

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          Close for sure. Connectivity and being persistent storage of info/experience tho7gh notes and pictures, but the retrieval is lack luster and there doesn’t tend to do a lot of knowledge creation on that info on its own.

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      I would 100% use this. I have ADHD and having the ability to recall something I did days or even weeks ago and query things I did in the past is amazing.

      “Hey, I messed up my home assistant automation and can’t remember what my old automation was that was working. Can you find it?”

      “I had a meeting a month ago with my boss Collen and he showed me a deck about this or that data point. Bring that power point deck up”.

      The use cases are endless. This is literally a game changer.

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        yes, but it should be opt-in not opt-out. It should not exist in my os unless I install it myself.

        I could apply this line to so many things microsoft put into windows since xp.

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          There is an opt out option. You even get 50gb of space back when you do. You can even set which apps can or can’t be part of the recall program. You can delete all the data like how you would delete browser history.

          I think the main thing is that you’re in control of the data.

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        I also have ADHD and would benefit from it just like you said, however, I wouldn’t trust Microsoft with anything related to privacy & security based on their track record. This is going to be the last piece in a huge puzzle that makes me switch to macOS confidently.

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          “Sorry, Microsoft cannot recall your nuts. We haven’t developed the technology to zoom in to that level of details.”

          Sorry for that. It was just too easy to pass up.

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      Audit trail in a corporate environment maybe. Assuming non-Microsoft admins have access to that data, it could be a benefit.

      Can’t imagine the risk it introduces though.

      And resource usage overhead.

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      If it was local only, and more security focused I would 100%.

      My ADHD. brain needs an AI assistant.

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    Personally i’m all for it, no one I know likes it and even the most aggressive linux hater I know has switched to saying that they’ll probably try it after win 10 eol

    Best advertising campain I’ve ever seen, just not for the product they are trying to advertise

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    FTFY: Windows feature that screenshots everything labeled is a security “disaster”

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      That’s the problem. They keep pushing this shit until people get desensitized and see it as “normal.” We absolutely need to shout and rant about this ridiculous crap, everytime.

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    Microsoft claims it’s offline, but how sure can we be? I smell what the rock is cooking.

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      Doesn’t matter. If your PC is ever compromised, that feature is a one stop shop for stealing everything you have ever done on your computer.

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      It’s using a snapdragon elite specific chip that can handle the AI offline.

      While we don’t yet know if it can be a hackers wet dream, we do know that there are use cases for it

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        Yes I can agree there can be positive uses for AI, but I don’t really see any transparency from current AI companies to trust them.

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          Unfortunately, that ship has already sailed. AI will be a disruptor. You not using it won’t change anything. Only laws and legislative action will fix things.

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      Even if it was 100% offline. For how long? Microsoft can change that with a patch at any time. Suddenly all your personal files are being fed into GPT with no consent.

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        No more windows for me. I’ve been back and forth with windows 11 and Linux but been on Linux for awhile. Last windows I used full time was 7

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      It’s not, it just a marketing image.
      Say what you will about Microsoft and Win11 but their 3D animated trailers and marketing images look amazing