• deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    I’m sick of Christians who work for the public suing because they don’t want to do their jobs.

    If you cannot serve the whole public, quit your job in public service.

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      Sometimes, a “reasonable accommodation” is to let them quit.

      It cracks me up though. they accomodated him. Put him at a station that didn’t have a flag. then he went and removed the 3 other flags that were simply in view…

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        What I hate the most is that his whole excuse is bullshit. The Bible dosen’t even know what being gay is, it’s only against bronze age booty thief power displays, it knows absolutely nothing about being trans, these people really need to start specifying that they are against ‘loving thy neighbor’ because they interpret out of context verses written in old English they don’t understand to mean they can hate people they don’t like or are currently pretending not to be one of.

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          There have always been gay people, and in every culture, though. While trans is a relatively modern concept, there have definitely been gender-variant people across cultures too.

          The fact that it’s been vaguely mentioned at all in the Bible suggests it was a non-issue. Romans, for example, social advancement revolved around patronage… which involved gay sex.

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            The only modern part of things are the hormone medicines and surgeries we have now. And the language and terms we use. But people being trans, intersex, both sexes, neither, etc, etc is as old as humanity as far as we can tell. There are ancient examples of things like I think it was a grave of a person born female, but was buried with armor and honors of an exclusively male role, like a warrior something. Like a “Mulan” type thing. Which means either nobody knew they were born female or it didn’t matter.

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            I didn’t mean these groups didn’t exist, but no legitimate scholar has found any evidence of ancient Hebrews having any concept of sexual orientation or trans identity as we have today. They DID have 6-9 genders, and Jesus himself mentions 5 genders, so it’s not clear how people we call homosexual or trans today fit into that culture. Jesus mentions Men, Women, Eunichs by birth, Eunichs by choice, and Eunichs by force, and there were other designations by his culture, the Bible very specifically forbids one sexual act, a man penitrating a man. No mention of sex with eunichs of any variety, no mention of non penatrative sex, no mention of women having sex with women, it does forbid men dressing as women and women dressing as men, but it is forbidding only the deception of the act, where did men who decided they were in fact women fit in? Is that a deception? We don’t know, and we know rabbis of the day we’re capable of very nuanced application of law, there’s records of entire arguments going on for hours worth of legal analysis, like how to treat a man who’s testicles are crushed, or if his penis is damaged to prevent typical ejaculation, what the law requires, what common sense requires, we also know the law section of the Bible was never in fact a legal system used by ancient Hebrews, it was literally propaganda, and it’s largely draconian, and the legal system used in fact, wasn’t. Rabbis rarely if ever sentanced anyone to death, they viewed human life as sacred to God, so the risk of falsely executing anyone was considered too high a risk in almost every case.

            My whole point is, if you honestly study the text, there’s clearly no stance on homosexual orientation, and no stance on trans identity, what isn’t ambiguous or lacking a mention on, is what ‘‘love thy neighbor’’ means and how to apply it to your life, and how high a priority it must be. It’s very clear. Treat others beyond baseline humanely, do all you can to help others, do more than is expected, and never fail to forgive even highly repeated sin, or face the judgment of God, as any negative effect you put on others, God will act as if you did that directly to him.

            To throw that all out for the opportunity to act as if hate and abuse are validated by their religion is the definition of evil.

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          Yup it’s simply hateful, spiteful people being assholes. Inconsiderate pricks using religion as an excuse to be inconsiderate pricks.

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          it’s only against bronze age booty thief power displays

          I was once in a band called Bronze Age Booty Thieves. Our first album Power Displays didn’t sell too well…

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          Early Modern English.

          Here’s John 3:16 in Old English: “God lufede middan-eard swa þæt he sealde hys akennedan sune þæt nan ne for-wurðe þe on hine ge-lefð. Ac habbe þt eche lyf.”

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            Fair enough, but it’s still not modern English and it’s easy to read a verse in the KJV Bible and think it means exactly the opposite of what it says due to language changes

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    That someone who believes in the Bible and is professionally contracted to prevent people from drowning is being upset they are doing that job near the Biblical symbol of a covenant not to drown humanity again is making me drown in the irony.

    Please send help.

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    Right wing conservative “Christians:”

    Libs are snowflakes!

    Also

    I’m triggered by a sequence of colors!

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      Right wing Christians (don’t put it in quotes, don’t do a No True Scotsman, they’re Christians) hate rainbows now and I can’t love it more because it ruins their precious Noah story for them.

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        The guy has a dope, but do people really think they hate rainbows and not what this flag is supposed to represent?

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            Really? Sure as fuck? Well, this should be easy for you to prove then. Or were you lying?

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              For example, this guy complaining that the rainbow has been ruined for religion ever since it was “secularized” but the song Somewhere Over the Rainbow.

              https://www.ezrainstitute.com/resource-library/articles/reclaiming-the-rainbow-responding-to-lgbt-challenges-with-grace-truth/

              I’m sure you’ll say this won’t count because this is your typical M.O.

              I look forward to you berating me because actually Somewhere Over the Rainbow is about sucking cock or something.

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                I don’t see where in this article where it shows that “They sure as fuck complain every time they see a rainbow anywhere.”

                It don’t even see where it shows this individual complaint when he sees a rainbow outside of on the flag.

                Could you be more specific?

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                  Called it.

                  I love that I even told you what he said and you claim you don’t see it. Try a control-F for the word 'somewhere." That should help.

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      It’s even dumber because a rainbow doesn’t necessarily mean LGBTQ. Sometimes rainbow is just rainbow.

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      The fact that he was able to sue… especially in the state of California of all places. This could actually be a trend for the entire nation.

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    White light is a tightly squished rainbow, so I guess these people’s only option is to all go blind.

    I mean, more blind than they’re now.

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    What if the homophobic lifeguard sees someone drowning that “looks gay”? I don’t know if this guy can do his job.

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    I wish people, regardless of personal beliefs, experiences, or values, would learn to appreciate one another for the things they have in common, and stop being triggered by the expressions of those characteristics that we don’t.

    I love so many people that don’t vote, worship, recreate, or otherwise live life like I do. That doesn’t change who I am, and I would never want to change who they are.

    Stop hating each other FFS.

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    Rule in his favor, then I have precedent to sue every church, business, and government entity that displays a cross. ❤️

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    Jeffery Little, who has worked for the city for 22 years, filed a lawsuit on Friday claiming he is being discriminated against for his evangelical faith by being made to stand in the same vicinity as the Progress Pride flag. Little alleges he was suspended from his role with the department’s background investigation unit last year after he took down three LGBTQ+ flags during Pride month.

    The Los Angeles county board of supervisors voted last year to require the rainbow banner be flown during the month of June at government buildings, which includes lifeguard stands. Little, who claimed the flags present a “direct conflict” with his religious beliefs, fought to be placed at stations that would not fly the flag, as they did not have the right flag poles to fly any banner.

    I gotta go to work so I’ll leave that to comment for myself.

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    The lifeguard seemed particularly triggered by the turquoise and pink stripes on the original Pride flag designed by Gilbert Baker, which represent magic and sex, respectively.

    Gonna go out on a limb and say that this man is no fun at parties.